I noticed a strange and unexpected thing recently. I never paid attention to details of pencils because I had assumed if a pencil is from a well known brand, they would be consistent for same series.

I bought Faber Castell 5B (12 piece) pencils of 9000 series, which came in a bit old cardboard/hard paper box. Its date of first availability was around 2010 on Amazon. The 12 pencil costed me about 6 USD.

I already have some other pencils like HB to 8B, which were part of a set of 6 pencils, and came in a metallic box. For this question, let's take example of only one, 8B. Its date of first availability was around 2019 on Amazon. 6 pencils also costed me about 6 USD (strange that per pencil price is double here).

8B has a bit different in terms of look and feel of printed text. I mean the information and branding is exactly same for both 5B and 8B. But there are slight differences in thickness of fonts and color of the golden painted ring (which is at the end of pencil).

In case of 8B, the ring was a bit golden color and for 5B it was bit silver like.

For 5B, the green color was a bit unsaturated (like bit black green). And the green color was not smooth on pencil. It was obvious that they weren't dried properly after coloring was done because I can see the green color spots inside the paper/card box.

For 8B, it was like fresh and bright green (subtle difference, not sure you'd notice in the images) and there was no as such problem of coloring. They look like more finished.

You can see some of the differences in following images:

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So all these things make me guess that despite having same series, the 5B were manufactured years ago and 8B were manufactured recently. I don't know, but these personal evidences make me really feel so. (I don't have any clear proof so I guess I have no right to make a strict statement on it).

Now comes the more important thing. The wood.

8B felt a bit better when I was sharpening them with sharpener. The wood was a bit whiter than the 5B and smooth too. 5B wood was breaking easily in parts and wasn't smooth. You can notice the difference in following pencils:

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This difference was a bit significant and made me eventually ask this question.

One alternate theory that could explain this is: 5Bs are manufactured locally in my country and it's a duplicate product. But that's highly unlikely. Because I did not notice any problem in working of pencils. Worked just like other grades. Further the reviews on Amazon are excellent for both pencils.

I have to buy 2 or 3 more grades (12 each) and now I'm just thinking if I should go with what's available irrespective of quality of wood. Or if it's actually a quality problem, I would try to find the latest ones somewhere (if I could). So your views would help me know things better.

Like I had said, I had believed that if a pencil is made by well known brand, it would be consistent in terms of quality. But now I'm really curious. If even a well known brand can have manufacturing faults and still end up in market.

So is it possible that with such a time span of manufacturing, say a decade, the wood used in newer ones could be a bit better? Or alternatively, maybe the wood in older pencils turned a bit bad with time?

PS: I have nothing against Faber Castell or any particular brand. It's just I noticed these unexpected wood differences, which were very obvious. So I just want to go into details to know some truth.

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My personal experience is that high quality pencils tend to have better quality wood which can be sharpened easily, while cheaper pencils can have varying quality of wood. Sometimes it's pure chance how hard or soft the wood is and you can have very different wood in the same batch of pencils and sometimes even in the same pencil.

Here's a short video about how pencils are made.

You see that the manufacturing begins with wood slats in which 6 grooves for 6 leads are cut. The machine glues a second grooved slat on top of the first and cuts the 6 pencils from each slat.

Among the things that can influence how well a sharpener can cut the wood are:

  • The type and density of the wood. Trees that grew slower have finer rings and denser wood, which makes them somewhat harder to sharpen but gives the shavings more stability. Wood that grew quicker has thicker rings which may fray while sharpening, but it's usually also cheaper. Some trees tend to have channels running through the wood that become holes.
  • The grain and orientation of the wood. Some slats are cut from closer to the center of the tree (those have rings of a smaller radius) and some from closer to the bark (those have rings of a bigger radius). Some slats end up with the center of their rings facing the lead, some facing the outside. Since it's easy to cut the wood with the grain but it may rip if cut against the grain, it's pure chance how well an individual pencil can be sharpened.
  • The blade of your sharpener. If your sharpener is blunt, it will rip the wood instead of cutting it. That doesn't cause the problem, but it makes the diffences in wood much more obvious. A new sharpener may be able to get a whole shaving from your 5B pencil.

Here's the result of my little experiment:

First: 3 pencils sharpened by a hand crank sharpener. You can clearly see wood grain in the first one. The 2 yellow ones are from the same package and of same age.

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Second: the same pencils tortured sharpened with an old, blunt sharpener. The first one ripped where the sharpener had to cut against the grain of the wood. The second one is still the smoothest and the shaving is completely intact. The third one clearly shows fraying where the wood isn't as dense and the shaving has holes along the tip.

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  • Yeah I feel it could be that one of slates could be bit bad quality and which can cause problems while sharpening. So can we assume it's not beca9the pencil wood is very old? And it's because of the quality of wood used?
    – Vikas
    Commented Aug 2, 2021 at 19:04
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    Old wood only deteriorates when it's damp. Think about old music instruments that are still played today or wooden objects found in egypt and other dry parts of the world after thousands of years. Unless there's high air humidity where you live, the age of the wood doesn't matter. The quality of the wood and the sharpness of the sharpener blade are the main factors.
    – Elmy
    Commented Aug 2, 2021 at 19:42

Since you're asking about the specifics of a brand, I took a long and enjoyable dive into some of the information that is quite readily available.

As Stephie mentioned in the comments on the question you raised on Meta, it is likely that products available in different countries were manufactured in different factories.
Furthermore, any self-respecting brand would want to improve the quality of their materials when and where they can. But availability, changing regulations, and changing costs will also have an influence on the final product (as an example, in 2001 Faber-Castell started painting their pencils using a water-based paint instead of a solvent-based (aceton) one because of health- and environmental reasons (and, not unimportantly, to keep being able to produce in Germany).1 Changes in manufacturing can also account for the subtle difference in colour, but so can time and storage).

Faber-Castell has 16 different manufacturing plants. Most of these specialize in a certain type of product.2 (See also [here][3].)

The sources of the wood used for production have changed throughout the years. Originally it seems only cedar wood was used6, but, throughout the decades, manufacturing plants have been established in different locations around the world, undoubtedly resulting in at least slightly different consistencies of wood in similar products (if of the same type at all).

"With a company history of almost 260 years, Faber-Castell currently produces 2.3 billion pencil units annually in three production plants worldwide." 5

Since "the mid-80's", Faber-Castell has a Caribbean Pine plantation in Brazil.3
In 1998, Faber-Castell "builds a production site for wood pencil slats in Costa Rica – using FSC (Forest Stewardship Council) certified gmelina wood. Production of wood-cased pencils commences in 2002".3

According to the FSC website, the plantations owned by Faber-Castell apparently produce wood of the following species for pencils:

Alstonia scholaris (L.) R.Br. [Blackboard tree]; Calocedrus decurrens [California incense-cedar]; Gmelina arborea Roxb. ["gamhar"]; Pinus caribaea [Caribbean pine]; Populus trichocarpa x P. deltoides (TxD) hybrid [a black cottonwood/eastern cottonwood hybrid]; Tilia amurensis [Amur linden]; Tilia mandshurica [Manchurian lime]

The main species used for pencil production seem to be the Californian cedar and the Brazilian pine:

  • "The highest quality of wood for pencils and colour pencils is produced by the Californian cedar and the Brazilian pine [note: likely the Caribbean pine] that are cultivated in Faber-Castell’s own plantations.
    Cedar wood is almost knot-free, long-fibred and characterised by a consistent growth pattern due to minimal seasonal variations in California. It can therefore be easily and cleanly sharpened, which is a very important aspect for a quality pencil.
    " 4

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  • "“The Pinus caribaea hondurensis is a Caribbean species, especially stress-resistant and with the ability to survive dry periods of up to six months,” explains the expert. “It also grows quickly in this tropical climate and working with its soft wood is easy. That includes sharpening processes, for example, which makes it the perfect species for pencil production.”" 5

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The author of Polar Pencil Pusher is similarly at a loss here to what the exact type of wood used is:

"The species of wood used for the Castell 9000 is a mystery to me. It doesn’t look or smell like cedar, the “default” for high-end pencils. It doesn’t actually smell like much of anything. The literature from Faber-Castell indicates only that they are made of solid wood that is cultivated for that purpose in Colombia. I have heard rumors on the internet that it’s pine; I’d buy that, but can’t say for certain."

Something else noteworthy here is that the wood of the pencils in the pictures of that article is similar to that of your 8B pencil.

In your image comparing the shafts of the 5B and 8B pencils, you can clearly see the 5B wood has a coarser texture, resulting in a higher chance of a sharpener getting caught up in the wood and having to use more power which in turn increases the chances of the lead breaking. This difference could indeed be due to age, but I doubt the structure (the size of the fibers) could change so much throughout a decade.

Based on all this information, I think the two pencils have indeed been made of different kinds of wood.

Also, I'm assuming the silver line on the tip of the pencil, which used to be golden, is something relatively new, based on date-restricted image searches (like this one). I don't know exactly what year these got switched, but likely somewhere in the early 2010's.


1: Global Business - Quick on the Draw, on BCC Sounds.
But they state in their Product Knowledge Manual (see Source #2) that they're "the only company to consistently use environmentally friendly water-based paint in its European pencil production", which means at least that they use different production standards for this aspect of their products, something that only enforces the idea that other materials might also very well differ between manufacturing locations.

2: Wikipedia entry on Faber-Castell; 'Offices'

3: Product Knowledge Manual (PDF), p. 12

4: Product Knowledge Manual (PDF), p. 25

5: 'From Pine to Pencil', article on faber-castell.eu.

  • All things you've mentioned make sense. However, I had thought the sliver ring ones could be older, because I can see on Amazon they are available from 2010 and 2012 on Amazon, but the golden ones came a few years later.
    – Vikas
    Commented Aug 7, 2021 at 10:23
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    @Vikas Oh, yes, that could be as well. I couldn't find any information on changes to those lines.
    – Joachim
    Commented Aug 7, 2021 at 10:45

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